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INTERVIEW WITH AN ALIEN: How We Can Solve Our Health & Political Problems & Put An End To The Pandemic Of Corruption

Jun 06, 2026 - the International Society of Problem Solvers

This unusual 'interview format' discussion gives us a whole new perspective on how, through things like decentralized ‘swarm intelligence’, we can take on the ‘corruptors’ and finally start to reduce healthcare costs while actually improving public health, as the old system was originally intended to do.
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INTERVIEW WITH AN ALIEN: How We Can Solve Our Health & Political Problems & Put An End To The Pandemic Of Corruption

There is talk of aliens and UFO’s all over the media these days. This is being driven by the slow, trickling release of the Pentagon’s ‘UFO Files’ (or UAP’s as they are now called). Many of these video files are very compelling indeed, and for those of us who have seen strange things in the sky, it is confirmation of what we already know and believe – that we are not alone in the Universe.

Yet, this time something feels entirely different. It feels as if momentum is really building to a real ‘Disclosure Day’ when the US and other world governments will admit that we are just one of a plethora of advanced alien species and that we need to quickly ‘shape up’ to take our place at the table of the ‘Galactic Federation,’

Coincidentally, this coming week we will see the premier of Stephen Spielbergs next big blockbuster ‘Disclosure Day,’ a movie he insists, is the real deal. “It’s my first film that will be considered science fiction that I do not consider to be science fiction,” Spielberg said in a recent interview.

So are aliens real, are we about to have our own real ‘disclosure day’ and what bearing does all this have on how we need to fundamentally reform and redesign our political, our economic and our healthcare systems and institutions?

For many years now the International Society of Problem Solvers have been pondering the issue of fundamental reform and redesign of our political, economic and healthcare systems. While I think they are phenomenal lateral thinkers who would make Edward DeBono proud with some of their fantastic ‘out-of-the-box’ proposals, especially when it comes to de-corrupting healthcare, they remain quite ‘fringe’ in their circulation and awareness.

So, with all this current ‘Alien’ hype reaching fever pitch right now, they recently published the following ‘Interview With An Alien’ which explains many of their ‘system reform’ ideas.

Although we are not proposing that aliens exist, or even if this interview actually happened, it is well worth reading this discussion as it gives us a whole new perspective on how, through things like decentralized ‘swarm intelligence’, we can take on the ‘corruptors’ and finally start to reduce healthcare costs while actually improving public health, as the old system was originally intended to do. I hope you find this abbreviated version of the Interview as thought-provoking as I did…

THE VISITOR:



Maybe you heard? We had a Visitor. A super intelligent celestial life form took over our office in Buffalo, NY, and requested an interview. The Visitor would not let us use recording devices, but we were provided a transcript. Here it is:

THE INTERVIEW:



Society of Problem Solvers (SPS): So you are…. an alien?

The Visitor: If you mean not from this planet, then yes…

SPS: Oh. Okay. How about we start with your name?


Alien: You can call me Aion. It roughly translates in human language as: “One who remembers what civilizations forget.” I help civilizations like yours from going extinct. I am here to help you fix the crisis your planet faces before it is too late.

SPS: Extinct? What crisis do you mean? There seem to be many right now.


Aion: There are many. But they nearly all hinge on one in particular. The main crisis your planet faces is that the most important systems for humanity have become corrupted by other bad humans.

SPS: Who are these bad humans?


Aion: It isn’t just one group, it is several groups working together. We call these bad humans “The Corruptors,” and The Corruptors do not have the best intentions of the rest of humanity in mind. In fact, they act as a network with the goal of wanting to harm and control the rest of you. They are plotting against you as we speak.

SPS: Well can you give us some new technology to help us fight these “Corruptors?”


Aion: Unfortunately, no. It’s against our code of ethics and conduct to give technology to less evolved civilizations. But we can give you some knowledge. It’s really all you need. And in fact you already have it, you just need it highlighted. Once you have the knowledge it will be your decision to fix the problem or not. Truthfully, that will be the hardest part – trying to convince other people to be on board.

SPS: Okay, well what knowledge could you give us that could help us then?


Aion: First, know this: you have the ability to fix all of this yourselves – wars, famine, disease, poverty, healthcare and most importantly – the corruption… all of it. You can fix it with applied knowledge, innovation and by changing your own culture and code of ethics. But you are running out of time and you are facing a powerful adversary.

SPS: So how can we beat the clock?


Aion: It is simple – find as many good people as possible – people willing to adhere to a new code of ethics and conduct – and then connect your light together into one cohesive unit.

SPS: Connect our light?


Aion: You know, that part inside each of you that let’s you create, use imagination, and solve problems. All intelligent life has it, and it is universal. We know you as humans have it, based on all of the things you have created so far. Sure, you are using artificial intelligence to aid you now, but “creative intelligence” is different; it is special. In fact, it is what created the AI models you use. And – as far as we know – creative intelligence is best amplified by connecting it to other people. Connecting your light, to their light.

SPS: You mean… like working with others?


Aion: Sounds simple enough, right? Group problem-solving. Collaboration. Coordination. Yet in practice, you humans are surprisingly bad at getting it right. Especially at scale. You allow authorities to tell you how to work, and take your creativity away, instead of forming groups on your own. You also allow your egos to get in the way. Then, you fail to build high trust with each other and build on top of that trust. So far humans have discovered some rudimentary ways to do this – but connecting that light together requires better systems to maximize the outcomes. Like I said, right now the systems you currently use have all become corrupted.

SPS: If our systems are all corrupted, then how can we begin to fix this?

Aion: Think of it like this, your mainframe computer for humanity is corrupted, therefore all the programs that run on that computer are also corrupted. Your systems of government, media, academia, food, and even science – The Corruptors own these now. Voting is one of these systems. But more importantly, voting is not a great way to solve problems in groups to begin with. It is better than nothing, yes. But there are much much better ways – ways that humans have already discovered, such as collective intelligence systems.

SPS: Wait…What’s wrong with voting?


Aion: Voting for a representative was always a flawed system. Why? Because humans are flawed. In fact all life forms are. Even the most noble and honourable of us has flaws. Therefore voting for a representative who is easy-to-corrupt is not a good system. Individually we can all be corrupted with the right pressure, pain, or reward. But a large group of people working together – using the right knowledge and system – is much harder to corrupt.

SPS: Shouldn’t we be worried that most people are bad people?

Aion: That is a misconception. Most people are not bad people. In fact, most people on your planet genuinely want to do good. They want to cooperate. They want to collaborate. They want to belong to trustworthy communities and work together toward shared goals. Only a very small percentage of people consistently seek to exploit others, likely far less than 5%. The Corruptors are part of that minority.

SPS: Really? I would have assumed it was much higher. The way the corporate media makes it seem, our species hates each other.
Aion: That is mostly lies. When systems are transparent, fair, and trustworthy, human beings overwhelmingly prefer cooperation over exploitation. Most people would rather build together than rip one another off.

SPS: So what should we do?


Aion: For starters, you cannot use corrupted systems to fix corrupted systems. Let me ask you, how would you fix a corrupted or hacked computer?

SPS: Well, if a computer is seriously corrupted, you do not trust the compromised system to diagnose itself accurately. You bring in an external, trusted system. You’d effectively “plug in” a healthier system to evaluate, repair, or replace the damaged one.


Aion: Exactly. You would use a new system. A healthy system. One that works.
SPS: Where do we find one of those?
Aion: You don’t find it. You build it. Together. Under a new code of conduct for humanity. Sort of like a new Constitution, on how to use your new systems as you build them. All of this should exist outside of government, and be directly controlled by the people.

SPS: Okay, well we can’t just abandon the old system, people are trapped inside of it.

Aion: Correct. That’s why you don’t attack the system directly. You build something healthier beside it… next to it…. for people to migrate to.

SPS: A parallel operating system for civilization?

Aion: One. Or many. But yes, that’s exactly right. You build something that makes the old system obsolete. Get people to migrate to it, and use it to fix the old system. Then, eventually, just install the new one completely.

SPS: Interesting. What kind of systems would you recommend we build?


Aion: I would suggest starting simple – build a collective “swarm” intelligence platform where humans can solve problems in groups. Make it radically transparent so all of the people can see what is happening at all times. And make it decentralized so the power is spread over the participants, making it very hard to corrupt.

SPS: So we make decisions as one group? Instead of having centralized leaders or representatives do it for us?

Aion: Exactly. The power of these systems is coordination that allows for real intelligence to emerge – along with creativity and constructive criticisms. You can still have top-down hierarchies that work for the group. But the decentralized people have the last say.

SPS: And you think groups of humans can answer together, like individual nodes of one big brain?

Aion: Not automatically. A crowd can be wise, or it can be insane. The difference is the system, and the knowledge of how to use it.

SPS: What makes the system wise?


Aion: Humans already discovered much of the answer you seek. Again, you call it “collective intelligence.” Sometimes “The Wisdom of Crowds.” Sometimes “Human Swarm Intelligence.” Different names for the same phenomenon. It is real, measurable and testable. And it is one of the most important discoveries your species has ever made – yet largely remains ignored.

SPS: Then why aren’t we already using this phenomena to run civilizations?

Aion: Because your species discovered the force before it understood the conditions required to stabilize it. Sometimes human crowds are dangerous. Without the right systems and training, they can be emotional, reactive, manipulated, or fragmented. They can also be tricked, or captured by corrupted hierarchies. Witch hunts, wars, Nazis, echo chambers, mob rule, groupthink…. are all examples.

SPS: So we discovered this powerful force already, but were spooked by the dangers of it and failed to explore it more?


Aion: That’s right. Instead of asking: “Why do humans sometimes do amazing things in groups, and other times hurt each other?” You abandoned the idea. That would be like giving up on flight after the first plane crash, instead of evolving the planes.

SPS: Well I was taught that groups without leaders always turn into mob rule.


Aion: Remember who wrote your history books, it was the Corruptors. To be fair, groups can turn into mob rule. But it is rare, and easy to prevent once you understand how. The Corruptors know Collective Intelligence is a powerful force that can be used against them. In fact it is their number one commandment – to keep humanity separated into smaller groups, and fighting. Mob rule only exists when there is more than one group. If you act as one humanity, without smaller group labels that divide you, then tyranny cannot exist. Tyranny requires “the others.”


SPS: So we need to unify?


Aion: Yes… connect your light together. Labeling groups makes you easy to divide and control.

SPS: So what conditions are required to make collective intelligence systems both safe and get good results?

Aion: Human researchers already uncovered the first principles. A human named James Surowiecki documented several of them in his book The Wisdom of Crowds.

SPS: What were those principles?

Aion: First: decentralization. No single authority controlling the flow of thought. Centralized systems become bottlenecks. Bottlenecks become corruption points.

SPS: Is that what happened to our institutions?

Aion: Partially, yes. When too much power concentrates into too few hands, places that once nurtured intelligence collapse into places of obedience. Especially when fear is added to the mix.

SPS: What else?

Aion: Diversity of opinion. Individualism. Different minds seeing the problem from different perspectives. These are required for good collective intelligence to arise. It is why the individual must always be protected with a code or constitution. It is also why it is wise to use groups of people that mix sexes and cultures who have different opinions. As long as you all adhere to the same common code of ethics and mutual respect.

SPS: So it seems that disagreement is necessary for collective intelligence to emerge?

Aion: Essential. All evolution comes from non-conformity. But you must have rules and organization for disagreement. Productive disagreement. Not chaos. Problem solving. You start with a clear problem then seek solutions. In fact this is the way all science should be done. You start with a problem and seek a good explanation as a solution.

SPS: So the key to creating new knowledge in groups is to make a transparent system where disagreement can take place?


Aion: Not just disagreement. People are good at recognizing good ideas too. They need a place to criticize and converge on ideas. A platform, or system. With human swarms there is often plenty of agreement too. Both are important.

SPS: Meaning the group understands the same problem?

Aion: For sure that is part of it. They don’t need to be experts – in fact that is a fallacy in creative problem solving – but they do need to understand the problem, which might take a little time to understand, or a certain level of learning. The individuals must understand what problem they are solving together, how they interact, and what signals matter.

SPS: That also makes sense.


Aion: Keep in mind it is usually best to solve problems one at a time. This is another problem with group labels. Look at the political parties and how they silo all the problems together in a stack of problems, and expect people in the party to adhere to them all. That is a groupthink trap, set on purpose. And it works very well.

SPS: It sounds like The Corruptors are very tricky.


Aion: Oh they are. But only because they also work as a high trust group – a bad swarm, if you will. Their trust is built mostly on fear. They use coercion, blackmail, bribery, and violence to keep that trust. They also are forced to act in secret, not allowing the rest of you to see their collusion. This is actually a huge disadvantage to them. Transparency nurtures collective intelligence far better than fear. And forcing people to collude does not have as good of an outcome as communities openly volunteering to solve problems together. The rest of humanity has this enormous advantage over The Corruptors, but you are all mostly blind to it. The Corruptors know this, and it is why they spend so much resources trying to keep all of you labeled into smaller groups, divided, afraid, and obedient.

SPS: Ok, let’s get back on topic then. After the group understands the problem, then what?

Aion: Aggregation. A mechanism to combine the answers, ideas, and signals from the group into coherent outputs.

SPS: So the big 4 things required in these systems are decentralization, diversity, coordination, and aggregation.

Aion: Those are the four foundationals.

SPS: There’s more?

Aion: Much more. Another big one is trust in the system itself.

SPS: Meaning people believe the process is fair?

Aion: Yes. But not just fair. Radically transparent. Without transparency, any form of group decision making will eventually become corrupted by bad actors – as your planet is finding out now. Transparency is the kryptonite of corruption.

SPS: What about peer-to-peer trust?

Aion: Also critical. High trust communities are what the most powerful forces can be built on. Your world’s culture is so stuck in diversity and group labels that you will need to approach this carefully. Decentralized trust is the way your digital shops like Amazon and Ebay work. You rate users not top-down, but person-to-person, in a decentralized fashion. Any new platform for humanity should copy this model. This is the best way to lock out bad actors, AI, and bots – without opening yourselves to corruption.

SPS: Can you give us a few more rules for collective intelligence systems?


Aion: Sure. Skin in the game – if everyone pools a little money or sweat equity into the system, they are more likely to care, participate, and think about creative answers. Also pooled money becomes a force for change on your planet. If one million people pooled $20 a month, that would be $20 million a month. With collective intelligence, you could turn that into billions rather easily by starting swarm owned businesses, and then start to change everything.

SPS: Once we come up with an idea we like, how do we make decisions? Do we vote?

Aion: No. Binary voting systems are primitive. Fifty-one percent agreement is not intelligence. It is merely division with a winner attached to it. Instead look for confidence scores. Ask the members to rate their confidence in an answer or decision, and set really high bars before taking action. Say 80% or higher to start.

SPS: How do we avoid the red tape, legal hurdles, and the companies and governments that will try to stop us?


Aion: There are many ways, but start with a tried and true way. If it was me, I would start with a PMA: a Private Membership Association. Consider the model of a Costco or an Amazon – organizations that operate at a scale of efficiency that dwarfs the public sector. Now, imagine stripping away the traditional shareholders, the board of directors beholden to Wall Street, and the profit-extraction mandates. In a Sovereign PMA, the members decide. There are no outside investors to satisfy. Capital is not diverted to dividends for distant stakeholders; it is recycled directly into the system. This is the essence of Membership Capital. When a group of people pools their dues into a PMA, they are not paying a tax; they are engaging in a direct capital infusion into infrastructure they control. Whether it is a farm cooperative and grocery store with clean independently tested foods – to ensure food sovereignty, a housing trust to secure living standards, a credit union, or a health network to provide independent wellness, the PMA converts passive savings into tangible assets. The members decide the rules, the quality standards, the code of conduct, and the goals. Because the association is private and voluntary, it operates outside the regulatory capture that forces public institutions to prioritize corporate profit over human health or efficiency. I would start here.

SPS: Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with humanity today. Is there anything else you would like to say before you go?


Aion: Use your desire to be in groups – your tribalism – to your advantage, and stop letting The Corruptors use it against you. Connect your light. Build systems that are hard to corrupt and migrate there as a place to pool money and decision making. Learn as much as you can about the most powerful force in the known universe – your ability to create new knowledge in groups. Use it wisely. Use it to help others. And once you become wise enough, spread it throughout the universe. Good luck.

You can read the original full substack post of this article at: https://joshketry.substack.com/p/the-visitor You can also subscribe for FREE to the Society of Problem Solvers on the above substack page.

If you would like to learn more about how to open and operate a Private Member Association (PMA) here in Canada Laura-Jane Coté runs regular PMA courses which many of our CHA members have already attended and benefited from. You can email her to get all the details at ljcote@pm.me.